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April 25, 2010

Trapped in a Moko world

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I am currently trapped in a OpenMoko world, trapped between SHR and Debian.

SHR
Has all the latest and greatest phone software.
And even the latest and greatest phone UI and FSO stack does not have the stability or speed of even the cheapest feature phones yet.

So I want the latest in phone software, even trough it always makes upgrading a risky buisness.
Unfortunately often I can not get the OE build system working , even if my life had depended on it.

No problem I just install the needed software for development on the phone SD card right?
In theory it should work, but even basic things like subversion is missing from the SHR repositories.
(and git and cvs for that matter as well)

Debian
Has all the development toys I could dream of.
Development is easier that pie, just apt-get the things you need and work as usual.
Sure it does not compile as fast as my dual core 2 desktop, but eventually it finishes, and it “just works tm”.
(Actually it compile acceptably fast, even Emacs runs acceptably on it)

But here is the catch…
The Debian maintainer team just can not keep up with the ever changing list of requirements and broken versions of software.
So one is stuck with older versions of the primary software for the phone… The phone software…
This would not be so bad if we had a basic stable semi fast baseline

Conclusion/Final words
I have recently put SHR on my SD card replacing the Debian install that used to reside there.
But this does not quite satisfy me.

I suppose I have a big itch and now I just need find some time to scratch it…

Give a man a program, frustrate him for a day. Teach a man to program, frustrate him for life.

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1 Comment »

  1. this is exactly how I feel. the only difference may be that I oscillate between shr, debian and qtmoko; qtmoko in my opinion is the fastest and most stable one, though by no means has anything as shiny as shr; debian is just nice as it has the completeness of an entire linux system. My wifi is running android and I have to say if it was not “closed” and very limited with gpl programs it would certainly be my choice, to at least show my friends that the freerunner is actually a good phone. By the way, is no one reconsidering a new casing for the old freerunner with no edges around the screen so one could “tap” at full resolution. In my opinion that would a mayor improvement at minor amount of work. Anyway, thanks a lot for your post; you just managed to put into writing, what a lot of people are experiencing. Please keep us updated at openmoko planet. best regards, robin

    Comment by robin — April 25, 2010 @ 5:32 pm | Reply


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